Begin Before You're Ready: Military Precision Meets Business Transformation

In this episode of The Bridgecast, host Scott Kinka welcomes Joel Neeb, Chief Transformation and Business Operations Officer at 8x8, for a deep dive into organizational change and the reality of the AI-driven market. Joel brings a unique perspective forged in the cockpit of an F-15 and refined through high-stakes leadership roles at VMware and Afterburner. He challenges the notion that AI is a "parlor trick" and instead presents it as the ultimate catalyst for businesses to reinvent themselves—or risk becoming obsolete to upstarts they don't even know exist yet.

Joel shares the harrowing yet inspiring story of his Stage IV cancer diagnosis at age 33 and how surviving a 15% survival rate gave him the courage to walk away from a guaranteed military retirement to conquer the business world. This conversation bridges the gap between military tactical excellence and modern business operations, offering IT leaders a practical framework for navigating the "revolutionary change" required in the next three years.

What you will learn:

How to implement the "Visualize, Optimize, Automate" framework before touching AI
Why the military's brief-execute-debrief cycle is the blueprint for business agility
The "chair flying" technique to accelerate team performance without burning budget
How to position communications data as your competitive moat in the AI era
Why revolutionary budgeting beats evolutionary optimization every single time

How IT leaders can become architects of transformation, not just infrastructure keepers

About the Guests:

Joel Neeb is the Chief Transformation and Business Operations Officer at 8x8, a global leader in cloud communications and contact center solutions. Before 8x8, Joel spent 15 years as a US Air Force Lieutenant Colonel and F-15 Mission Commander, flying 3,000 missions and training the top 0.5% of pilots in the world. After surviving Stage IV cancer in 2010 (given just an 18-month prognosis), Joel left the military five years before retirement to pursue his passion for transformation in the business world. He completed his MBA and joined Afterburner, a consultancy focused on corporate execution, before joining VMware's Office of the CEO where he worked directly with Pat Gelsinger to lead the company's shift from product sales to outcome-based SaaS models. Joel is the author of Survivor's Obligation and posts daily on LinkedIn, where he answers every message and engages in dialogue with leaders navigating transformation.

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Episode Highlights:

[05:42] You Have Seven Missions to Solo

Joel reveals the most powerful early lesson from flight school: you begin before you feel ready. After just seven training flights, the instructor climbs out of the cockpit, leaves one engine running, and says "Good luck." When Joel grabbed his instructor's shoulder and said he wasn't ready, the instructor replied, "I know you don't, but you are." This principle applies everywhere in business. We wait for the "perfect" moment, the complete data set, the executive buy-in—but transformation requires movement before comfort arrives. Joel explains: "The secret was, he was right. He had done the things to make sure I was ready. We often get stuck waiting for the 'perfect' opportunity, but you have to move before you feel ready." The companies that thrive in the AI era won't be the ones who wait for certainty. They'll be the ones who launched when they had 70% of the answers, not 100%.

[08:15] Chair Flying: Programming Your Brain for Success

Every night before a mission, Joel would go home, stick a plunger on the floor, close his eyes, and visualize the entire sortie—every maneuver, every action, every decision point. This practice, called "chair flying," was the determining factor in performance the next day. Joel notes that flight instructors still ask struggling students: "Did you chair fly last night?" The business world hasn't adopted this yet, but it should. Visualization isn't mysticism—it's deliberate mental programming. Whether you're preparing for a board presentation, a customer negotiation, or rolling out a new AI initiative, the act of mentally rehearsing every scenario dramatically increases your odds of success. As Joel puts it: "That act of visualizing success was a determining factor in my performance the next day." In an era where execution speed matters more than perfect strategy, mental preparation is the edge most leaders overlook.

[20:50] Visualize, Optimize, Automate—In That Order

Joel delivers the framework every IT leader needs: Visualize your current processes, Optimize them ruthlessly, then Automate the bottlenecks. Most companies skip straight to automation—and that's how you fail. "If you put AI on an inefficient process, you just become inefficient faster," Joel warns. "You're paving over the cow path." He uses the example of how 8x8 approached AI implementation: they first mapped every business procedure (sending emails, updating Salesforce), then eliminated convoluted steps, and only then introduced AI to handle the manual work. The result? Automated meeting summaries, instant CRM updates, and a custom-built sales training simulator that cost pennies compared to the $200,000 off-the-shelf version. The lesson: AI isn't magic. It's a tool that amplifies what you feed it. Feed it broken processes, and you get faster failure. Feed it optimized workflows, and you get compounding leverage.

[24:35] We Are All Blockbuster Video Today

Joel drops the most uncomfortable truth in the episode: every company today is Blockbuster Video. Blockbuster had the chance to buy Netflix for $50 million in 1999. Even if they had, they likely would have strangled it to protect their brick-and-mortar cash cow. Netflix won because they disrupted themselves repeatedly—from DVD logistics to streaming to Hollywood production studio. Joel's warning is stark: "We have to be willing to disrupt everything we do in this moment because the sad part of the story is we are all Blockbuster Video today. We all have to figure out how to reinvent ourselves the way Netflix did, or we will become obsolete—and not obsolete to our competitors, but obsolete to some upstart we don't even know exists right now." This isn't fear-mongering. It's reality. The companies winning in AI aren't the ones protecting legacy revenue. They're the ones cannibalizing their own business models before someone else does. If you're optimizing for comfort instead of survival, you've already lost.

Episode Resources:

Joel Neeb on LinkedIn
Scott Kinka on LinkedIn
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