The Future Is Human
Should you build your leadership playbook from your worst experiences? ft. Pat Phelan
April 28, 2026
Can intentional leadership be the missing piece that boosts employee performance? In this episode of The Future Is Human podcast, host Naomi Trickey sits down with Pat Phelan, Chief Revenue Officer at GoCardless for an eye-opening conversation about what’s REALLY required from leaders today. Tune in for his tried and tested strategies on building high-performing teams across global regions, keeping empathy and purpose at the center of both customer and employee experiences and being the guardian of your employees’ careers. In today’s day and age, it can be a real struggle to balance growth with values, but ironically, it’s a non-negotiable to do so. Tune in to find out how you, as a leader, can make it a reality.
Can intentional leadership be the missing piece that boosts employee performance? In this episode of The Future Is Human podcast, host Naomi Trickey sits down with Pat Phelan, Chief Revenue Officer at GoCardless for an eye-opening conversation about what’s REALLY required from leaders today.

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In today’s day and age, it can be a real struggle to balance growth with values, but ironically, it’s a non-negotiable to do so. Tune in to find out how you, as a leader, can make it a reality. 

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