The CMMC pause exposed two groups of people: those who had already been doing the work and those who were only waiting for a deadline. In this episode of Trust Issues, Bruno Lecoq and Jeremy Patterson talk about the “good student vs. bad student” divide, why so many contractors fail Phase One, and why IT reporting structure says more than most people think.
The biggest lesson to be learned: Treating CMMC like a test to pass is the wrong way to look at security.
The CMMC pause gave contractors more time, but it also revealed a hard truth: some companies were building security because they believed in it, while others were only reacting to the threat of being graded.
In this episode of Trust Issues, Bruno Lecoq is joined by Jeremy Patterson to unpack what the pause has shown them after weeks of conversations with contractors: the “good student vs. bad student” problem, the 88-point loophole, and why CMMC is the test, not the assignment.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why the CMMC pause exposed contractor behavior instead of changing it
- Why Phase One failures are often a readiness problem, not an auditor capacity problem
- Why IT reporting to the CFO can signal that security is being treated as a cost
- Why MSPs have to be treated as in-scope partners for CMMC
- Why the self-attestation mindset creates the wrong incentives
- Why CMMC should be treated as how the business operates, not a test to cram for
Episode chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Trust Issues
01:00 What the CMMC pause revealed about contractor readiness
03:44 Good students, bad students, and the CMMC test
06:16 Why 80% fail Phase One
13:20 Why some contractors keep delaying compliance
15:52 Where IT reports say a lot about security culture
17:04 What prepared organizations do differently
20:47 Why your MSP is part of your CMMC scope
27:15 What the next CMMC timeline could look like
28:12 CMMC is the test, not the assignment
29:17 Why self-attestation is not enough
31:26 The 88-point loophole
34:24 Why a longer timeline can help
35:39 Why CMMC standards will keep rising
36:28 The real price of non-compliance
39:43 Final takeaway: keep studying
Quotes:
- “Some companies have been doing the reading, doing the work, the whole time, whether there’s a test on the calendar or not.”
- “Now that it got pushed back, it seems like the people who never started still aren’t starting.”
- “If I say that I’m an 88, they won’t check me, but if I say that I’m a 110, there’s a chance an auditor is going to check me.”
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