Everlutionary: Healing and Transforming the World
E25 - The Wetiko Psychosis and the Need for Earth-Led Education with Cindy Forde
May 6, 2025
Native American mythologies portray the mythical figure of “Wetiko” as a cannibalistic spirit who embodies greed and exploitation and can possess human beings. Modern thinkers interpret it as a “mind virus” or a force that can corrupt individuals and societies by leading them down a path of self-serving behavior and a disregard for others and the environment. Indigenous traditions see this as violating the sacred law of reciprocity, where one should give back to the world as much as one takes. In this episode of The Everlutionary Podcast, our host, Hawah Kasat, sits down with Cindy Forde, author of “Bright New World,” and the Founder of Planetari, to unpack how Earth-led education offers a transformative path to healing our relationship with the planet by shifting from an egocentric to an ecocentric worldview. Can Earth-led education revolutionize our relationship with the planet and offer hope and practical solutions for those seeking to make a meaningful impact?
Is a virus of the mind responsible for humans' insatiable greed, the creation of endless wars, and the destruction of the very environment that we need to live? Native American mythologies portray the mythical figure of “Wetiko” as a cannibalistic spirit who embodies greed and exploitation and can possess human beings. Modern thinkers interpret it as a “mind virus” or a force that can corrupt individuals and societies by leading them down a path of self-serving behavior and a disregard for others and the environment. Indigenous traditions see this as violating the sacred law of reciprocity, where one should give back to the world as much as one takes. 


In this episode of The Everlutionary Podcast, our host, Hawah Kasat, sits down with Cindy Forde, author of “Bright New World,” and the Founder of Planetari, to unpack how Earth-led education offers a transformative path to healing our relationship with the planet by shifting from an egocentric to an ecocentric worldview. Could Earth-led education revolutionize our relationship with the planet and offer hope and practical solutions for those seeking to make a meaningful impact? 


What You’ll Learn:
Cindy Forde is a visionary educator and founder of Planetari, an organization pioneering Earth-led education. As an Associate Fellow at the University of Cambridge and guest faculty at Homerton College, she is working to establish the Center for Systemic Change. Her children's book “Bright New World: Building a Better Planet” has received critical acclaim from The Guardian and New Scientist. With vast experience in environmental leadership, including roles as Managing Director of the Blue Marine Foundation and CEO of the Cambridge Science Center, Cindy specializes in developing educational frameworks that foster ecological consciousness and sustainable thinking.

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Resources to Learn More About Earth-Led Education, Planetary Healing, and Environmental Healing:

1) Bright New World: How to Make a Happy Planet:
https://www.amazon.com/Bright-New-World-happy-planet-ebook/dp/B09WKKCMSD?
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2) Wetiko: The Mind Entity that Plagues Humanity:
https://youtu.be/ChwDoexYfOM?si=kDDyE4lS617VCCdt

3) How to teach climate change so 15-year-olds can act:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/24/how-to-teach-climate-change-so-15-year-olds-can-act?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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Previous guests include: Kerry Docherty of Faherty Brand; Cindy Forde, author of “Bright New World,” and the Founder of Planetari; Dr. Joanna Grace, the Founder of The Sensory Projects; Prince Haru, the recognized leader of the Kuntanawa Nation

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