🧬 16 Years at Google Taught Me How to Scale From 1 to 150 People | Javier Tordable (2/4)
In this part of the podcast, Javier Tordable shares his early career journey—from starting at Microsoft to spending 16 years at Google as a Staff Engineer and Technical Director. He reflects on the engineering-driven culture at Microsoft and the welcoming environment that shaped his foundation in tech.
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"You had this combination of being able to move fast, make changes quickly, but at the same time, responsibility and empowerment."
In this part of the podcast, Javier Tordable shares his early career journey—from starting at Microsoft to spending 16 years at Google as a Staff Engineer and Technical Director. He reflects on the engineering-driven culture at Microsoft and the welcoming environment that shaped his foundation in tech.
Javier recounts joining Google in 2008 when the company was still under 25,000 people, and details his work building key features for Webmaster Tools (now Google Search Console), including the Fetch as Googlebot feature. He and Jon also swap stories about the scrappy early days of building products with limited resources.
Key Topics Covered:
- Javier's early career at Microsoft and its engineering-driven culture
- Transitioning to Google in 2008 and the interview process
- Building features for Webmaster Tools and Google Search Console
- Google's culture of empowerment and moving fast
- Comparing early startup resourcefulness with big-tech engineering scale
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Website: https://www.pauling.ai/
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Resources & Articles:
Engineering Leadership and Tech Lead Responsibilities: https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/careers/ic-leadership/tech-lead/
Google Search Console and Webmaster Tools: https://search.google.com/search-console/about
Organizational Design in Tech Companies: https://a16z.com/scaling-your-technical-org/
Scaling Engineering Organizations and Process Documentation: https://stripe.com/guides/atlas/scaling-eng
SEO Tools for Business Growth: https://www.semrush.com/seo/
Companies, Universities, & People Mentioned:
Google: https://www.google.com
Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:56 Adjusting to US Culture from Spain
04:06 Microsoft's Engineering-Driven Culture
05:20 Joining Google in the Post-IPO Era
06:40 How the Google Opportunity Came About
08:46 Working at Google: Speed and Scale
09:12 Building Webmaster Tools and Search Console
10:06 Jon's Early Days Starting Excedr
12:26 Transitioning to Ads as Staff Engineer
16:58 Management Roles and Team Leadership
18:59 Operating at Google's Massive Scale
20:29 Documentation and Knowledge Management
21:05 Office Culture and In-Person Collaboration
27:16 Outro