Why Law Firms Reject Innovation and How Ted Theodoropoulos Is Making Change Happen
What’s it going to take for legal companies to wholeheartedly embrace legal technology? Social proof, as Ted Theodoropoulos, CEO of Infodash, puts it. In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, hosts Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens, pick Ted’s brain about why law firms have historically resisted technological innovation, how generative AI is forcing a fundamental reckoning with firm economics and what structural changes must occur for large law to truly embrace the digital transformation already reshaping the industry.
We’ve essentially reached the point of no return. And, that’s a good thing.
What’s it going to take for legal companies to wholeheartedly embrace legal technology? Social proof, as Ted Theodoropoulos, CEO of Infodash, puts it. In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, hosts Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens, pick Ted’s brain about the tech reckoning the legal landscape is confronted with, today.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why "Innovation Theater" still dominates big law and why that’s dangerous
- Why change management is critical to successful AI adoption, not the tools
- How Gen AI is forcing conversations about business models that should have happened years ago
- The “social proof” strategy for legal tech vendors to sell successfully
- The how and why of practical AI integration that doesn’t replace the human touch
- How managed service organizations (MSOs), private capital, and emerging regulatory pathways are quietly restructuring legal service delivery
The legal landscape has essentially reached the point of no return. And, that’s a good thing.
Highlights:
00:00 Introduction & Meeting Ted Theodoropoulos
02:03 Ted’s Podcasting Story & The Legal Innovation Spotlight
04:18 Innovation Theater is a Real Thing in Legal
12:14 Why Law Firms Resist Standardization
18:00 Building Social Proof is the Only Way for Legal Tech Adoption
20:26 Why Does Anyone Need an Intranet?
22:38 Measuring Success Beyond Page Views and Usage Data
28:06 How Venture Capital Is Reshaping Legal Tech Competition
32:06 Blending Generative AI with Human Legal Expertise
35:58 The Advantage of Vertical Focus Over Horizontal Expansion
39:00 Podcasting Lessons: Adapting Communication Style for Maximum Engagement
41:18 Ted’s Hot Take: The Business Model Reckoning & Why Law Firms Must Invest 10% in Tech
46:12 The Consolidation Wave Legal Can’t Ignore
47:19 Key Takeaways: Trust, Focus, and Structural Innovation in Legal Tech
Quotes:
- "There's been a lot of innovation theater in legal where innovation titles were handed out, but firms weren't fully committed to innovating, especially at a foundational level. Until you've got buy-in at the top, which is now starting to happen because AI has really forced their hand.”
- "The reason that law firms are so resistant to change and tech adoption is the bespoke nature of legal work. It's historically been an artisan craft. You can take lawyers in the same firm, in the same practice, and they are going to do things completely differently, with their own precedent documents that they use as starting points. They have their own little org structure, how they leverage paralegals, their own processes, how they engage with clients."
- "I always say, law firms don't buy tech - they buy social proof. You have to build that book of social proof before you'll really get at-bats with the biggest firms. Most vendors have to work their way up the ladder incrementally and eat table scraps in the beginning until they build. And you have to build that book of social proof before you'll really get at bats with the biggest firms."
- "Buying the tech is the easy part. It's the change management discipline that has to come along with the tech that is going to ultimately determine whether something becomes shelfware or generates great ROI for the firm.”
- "I think the number one attribute is focus. Vendors who come into this space with a horizontal focus don't do well, it's the ones who jump all in because that legal resume is so important. If you're in it long enough and become a student of the industry, you become an advisor beyond just whatever it is your technology does.”